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Seriously. Both make indie dramatic comedies that are well-written, well-acted, and well-made, but feel almost free form. Both had tremendously good debuts during the awesome indie relationship comedy era of the 90's - WALKING AND TALKING for Holofcener, KICKING & SCREAMING for Baumbach. (See? Same movie.) Both now make more dramatic movies that feature neurotic, high-strung, and highly-verbal characters. (For Holofcener, it's with Catherine Keener.) Both are very talented...but need to get back to more "focused," albeit "commercial" fare.
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